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jptg



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Taking the engine out. Reply with quote

I want to take my engine out and I have all the intructions and everything with me. The manual only shows me how to disassemble the engine and it does not show how to take the engine out the engine bay. Can anyone help me and kindly enough if you guys have any pics on where to put chain and how to take it out from the engine bay. Thank you guys. JP
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do not have the answer for you, but someone should.

we need more specific information on your car and model to be of assistance. thanks, wesley
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My car is a 1988 13B TII. Thanks - JP
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Blake
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could be more help, but you are asking a far too general question. Perhaps you should find an experienced mechanic or at least a mechanically inclined friend and have them help you. It really just comes down to common sense and mechanical aptitude...disconnect tranny, engine mounts, coolant, fuel, wiring, etc. and use an engine hoist. Hate to say it but if you have to ask, you shouldn't even attempt it by yourself.

By the way, what manual are you looking at? Both the Haynes and Factory Service Manual include a basic run-down of engine removal.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the factory manual.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already disconnected the fuel lines, electrical harnesses, and coolant lines. Do I need to drain the tranny's fluid before I unbolt the tranny of the engine?? Thanks JP
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jptg wrote:
I already disconnected the fuel lines, electrical harnesses, and coolant lines. Do I need to drain the tranny's fluid before I unbolt the tranny of the engine?? Thanks JP


No, the front of the tranny is sealed.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, I can finally take my engine out with out any doubts. JP
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there suppose to be six bolts that attaches from the tranny to the engine? I got an engine hoist which have an "L" shape hooks that hooks in the engine and where am I suppose to install these? I am suppose to use 4 bolts with the engine hoist which 2 screws goes to the 2 top spark plug holes and 2 on top of the manifold? Any idea? Thanks JP
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean engine hoist as in crane or engine stand?

My crane has a single hook. I loop a chain over the hook and at each end of the chain I have a D shackle. Engines normally have two lifting fittings. If you find the front fitting the 2nd fitting is on the opposite side of the engine at the rear. That way the engine is balanced front to rear and side to side.

I'd be real careful in screwing things into the spark plugs holes if your unsure. You don't want to damage the thread.

This is a S6 front cut. You can clearly see the front and rear lifting fittings. The front one is directly behind and to the right of the alternator when looking at the pic.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have a engine hoist that connects to the lift. My engine hoist has 4 chains hanging out and has 4 "L" shape hooks that you are suppose to screw somewhere in the engine. Have you ever seen those engine hoist that are sold in kragen made by powerbuilt? Any ways, Im stuck...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Its a load leveling device.

If your just pulling just the engine out then I'd get two D shackles from the local hardware and connect one chain from each end to the engine lift point as mentioned above with the shackle.

The crane has a lot of length in the chain. You need to workout if when the crane is at its highest point will it lift the engine clear of the body work.

Just jack the hoist up and with a tape measure add on the engine height and see if it clears the bodywork. If it doesn't then you need to adjust the chain lengths or remove the load leveler put a hook on

Have a look at this site.

http://www.felixwong.com/gallery/gallery.cgi?Category=51

As a safety point - never stand under something supported by a hydralic ram. If a seal fails then will just free fall. It the same issue as a hydralic jack - never stick any part of your body under the car until its supported on stands.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jptg wrote:
Well, I have a engine hoist that connects to the lift. My engine hoist has 4 chains hanging out and has 4 "L" shape hooks that you are suppose to screw somewhere in the engine. Have you ever seen those engine hoist that are sold in kragen made by powerbuilt? Any ways, Im stuck...


What you are describing sounds like somthing made for a piston engine. All you need is the single chain and hook that is fixed to the hoist and a short length of chain, either end of which should be attached at the stock pickup points (those steel flanges with the holes in them; one towards the front and one towards the rear). I like to put D-shape carabiners at the end of the chain, to make hooking it up quicker, but you can also just use a couple bolts and nuts to secure it to the flanges. I don't really like the load levelers because they are unnecessary and take up valuable travel of the hoist.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this will help:



Those flanges with the hole are the stock pickup points. Sometimes they are in different shapes or extend further, but generally the same location. These are hidden by all the junk on top of the engine, like the manifolds, alternator, etc. Just point a light down in there and try to find them. Sometimes they are missing, but it's no big deal. You can usually just find a bolt that will thread into one of those holes and use that instead.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks
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